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Rose
8/16/2018
EXTREMELY FISHY SMELL!

We were trying this for the first time in our body butter, and it ruined the whole batch. The fishy smell is so overpowering that I can't even stand to use my own product much less sell it. I tried using different scents to see if that would help, and even attempted using a different ratio in a separate batch. Nothing worked. It is terrible. I will not be getting this again.


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Rebecca
8/6/2018
Expensive and finicky, but you can't make conditioner without it

BTMS is one of the most finicky emulsifiers. It also smells awful and is very expensive. However, once you develop a conditioner recipe you love, BTMS is an absolute necessity.


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Edwina
8/2/2018
Smells awful

BTMS 50 and this bag smells completely different than the first bag. This one has such a horrible fishy smell that is coming thru to my final product. I made lotion I used BTMS 50. The batches I made with my first order are fine but the batches made with this latest order has a horrible fishy smell to the final product. My lotion was ruined and I can't sell it. I'm very disappointed.

Tina from Bramble Berry replies...
That's strange, our Btms-50 Conditioning Emulsifier has always had a very strong fishy smell to it. Though we have not found the scent to come through in our final products if used at 15% or less. Fragrance or Essential Oils should easily cover the smell. If your lotion is unscented you may want to use a lower percentage, like 6% or less.


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Lori
6/14/2018
Horrible Smell

This was my second order of BTMS 50 and this bag smells completely different than the first bag. This one has such a horrible fishy smell that is coming thru to my final product. I make shampoo bars and the recipe calls for BTMS 50. The batches I made with my first order are fine but the batches made with this latest order has a horrible fishy smell to the final product. I'm very disappointed as the only difference was a new order. I contacted customer support but was told that BTMS 50 was not recommended for shampoo bars - though all the recipes call for it. I can't sell shampoo bars that smell like this. It's absolutely horrible!

Tina from Bramble Berry replies...
The Btms-50 Conditioning Emulsifier definitely has a distinct fishy odor, especially right out of the bag. Though we have found the smell is not noticeable in products when used at 15% of less. If you're wanting to try and make a shampoo bar without that ingredient you may like our Invigorating Shampoo Bars recipe.


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Janet B
5/15/2018
Smells in Unscented Lotion

I have been using this product for years in my lotions. I've always disliked the smell when I'm making it but I never notice it in the final product until I had to use my unscented lotion. The "fishy" odor does come through because there is nothing else to mask it. Now that I've used it myself I've noticed. None of my customers have said anything and maybe I'm more intune with it because I dislike it when I make it but it is clearly there.

Tina from Bramble Berry replies...
While the Btms-50 is easily covered with fragrance or essential oils in your product, it does have a distinct smell that can come through in unscented lotions. If you are going to use the Btms in unscented lotions you may want to keep your usage on the lower side, under 6%, to help it be less noticeable.

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